QUALITY CARTRIDGE BRASS 38-55 WINCHESTER UNPRIMED(2.125)20/BAG

QUALITY CARTRIDGE BRASS 38-55 WINCHESTER UNPRIMED(2.125)20/BAG
Item #:QC3855WIN2125
Price:$38.75
$1.94 per piece
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MPN:3855WIN2125
Due to the packaging and shipping process, case necks are often slightly dinged or bent and need to be rounded up and sized to give proper neck tension. New and/or fired cases must be full-length resized or have the expander ball of the sizing die run through the case neck prior to loading.
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This is not loaded ammunition.

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WARNING: This product can expose you to Lead, which is known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information go to - www.P65Warnings.ca.gov.

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longer 38-55 brass

By Martin R. on Jan 30, 2024
This covers 38-55 Win. brass that is longer i.e. 2.125 rather than the modern SAAMI spec. length of 2.082, this longer length is how it was originally made historically when black powder, and especially, paper patch bullets, were being used. I have a box of 20 rounds that were made in Canada (Dominion, I think) a long time ago and their brass is this length (but these do not have paper-patch bullets), so these were the first cases I got in this length, and now this is the second batch, these being from Quality Cartridge. I have some more coming from Starline, but these latter took a really long time to back order. I am looking forward to loading some of these and trying them out in the 2 guns I own in this chambering, both are Winchester 1885 Single Shots, both antiques from the black powder era. I'm also very interested to try using paper-patch bullets in these, because historically this was a key to accuracy. There are whole books on doing this you can get. A lot of this has to do with specific bullet diameters, and in the case of the brass, whether you can use an appropriate bullet diameter given the brass neck, and neck wall thickness, that you have. But I have not yet loaded anything with this brass, so I might write another review later once I do. For this reason I gave 4 stars now. I think because Starline is now fulfilling these back orders, pretty soon Grafs will have these in stock, whereas Grafs are now out of stock on the Qual Cart version. I will be interested to see if there is any difference between the 2 versions, in fact the 3 versions if you count the old Dominion brass which I only have a little of. This brass, with the different lengths, is something of an example of how a cartridge's specs can be altered over time, especially if it has lasted from the black powder era up into the present, and how, at least in some cases, these changes can represent a loss of understanding of how the cartridge was originally designed to fit in chambers and to behave. Or at least an abandonment of older technology like paper patch bullets and or the pre-seating of bullet in the leade, with a separate brass case with power, secured by a wad, and loaded from the breech (this was a common technique in the "Scheutzen Shooting" period). The 38-55, although seldom commercially loaded today, is still occasionally loaded so it's not totally obsolete, but the changed SAAMI specs are used when it is loaded. It is my impression that newer guns in this chambering, have chamber specs to fit the shorter brass but not the longer, and also are made to use different bullet diameters than the black powder era guns. So this brass is intended to fit older guns (like my 2) that were made in the black powder era. To really read about the difference between these lengths, here is a link to an article on Starline's web site that gives a whole lot of detail on this issue with 38-55 in particular:
https://www.starlinebrass.com/articles/loading-with-correct-38-55-winchester-cases-38-55-rifle/
This article kind of tells it all, and it is where I first got the idea to try this longer 2.125" brass in the first place.
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